My 27 yr old sibling is a hard core follower of Joe Rogan 💩

What are some progressive channels/people/content that I could have my sibling start watching instead?

Preferably something that has a similar flavor - example: male host, muscular, easy to digest. I think that will make the transition easier.

My personal preferences are Seth Meyers and John Oliver, but Last Week Tonight (John Oliver) is even a heavy watch for me sometimes!

[No Andrew Hubbard. He’s another fake.]

Thank you!

  • moon@lemmy.ml
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    Huberman has been a guest on Rogan’s podcast and seems to be in the same circles with overlapping guests and ideas. He also peddles pseudoscience and random supplements, so I’m not sure this helps OP’s sibling escape the misinformation sphere.

    There’s also a pretty alarming piece in NY magazine (paywalled) that goes into how much he lies in his personal life to build a narrative that seems to align with the agenda he pushes on his show.

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      So now everyone that has been on Joe Rogan is a right wing fascist? Cause I couldn’t imagine Neil deGrasse Tysson like that.

      In terms of the pseudoscience and supplements… It clearly shows people don’t watch his stuff. I am SURE it’s not perfect, but most of it is clearly WELL referenced on the show description, and anything that hasn’t been officially approved he states that clearly with CONSTANT warnings to PLEASE CONSULT A PROFESSIONAL.

      I hate Joe Rogan. I hate fascist propaganda. Yes, Huberman makes money with his podcast, all podcasts are business, all big ones, at least.

      All the claims about his personal life seem to me like journalists trying to come up with vector attacks to a famous figure for clicks, just like it happens with any other celebrity.

      Yeah, he may be a terrible boyfriend, but Einstein married his cousin and Oppenheimer was a cheater and we live in this amazing (or horrible) world thanks to them.

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        First, he’s not in the right wing Rogan group but he’s definitely in the grifter circle that preys on insecure young men.

        Lol this guy is not Albert Einstein. He spends too much time podcasting and being an influencer for that to ever be the case. The best case you can make for him is as a scientific communicator, but he has been frequently shown to spread shoddy science and pseudoscientific claims about things like sunscreen damaging the brain.

        His personal life is very relevant here because it shows he’s a pathological liar:

        1. He had a primary partner who was in a serious relationship with him and on IVF so they could have a baby, but he was cheating on her with FIVE other women
        2. These women all believed they were in an exclusive relationship with him and he spun an astounding web of lies to maintain these relationships
        3. He exposed all of these women to a form of HPV that can cause cancer for women, without telling them that he was a carrier or that he was having unprotected sex with all of these other people (is this the kind of health advisor you want?)

        The reason why these 3 points matter are that they show a shocking pattern of deceit. The man was lying like it was oxygen to him, just so he could maintain six ostensibly monogamous relationships. He’s also a danger to public health, yet giving millions health advice every week.

        He has claimed to have been a bad kid who was locked up in an institution with conditions so bad that kids around him were dying/taking their own lives. That was entirely fabricated. He has more hard-luck stories about how his life was rough as a kid, but he found some hidden truth and became an academic and professional success. But the NY Mag article demonstrates he had a very privileged upbringing and neither his parents nor the kids who grew up with him know what he’s talking about. He’s obviously an upper-middle class guy selling a rags-to-riches story to his followers. It’s classic grifter stuff. “I used to be troubled and unsuccessful, until I found this thing. You can be like me if you do whatever I tell you and buy whatever I’m selling.”

        This man lies in public about his upbringing to convince people of a narrative about his success. He lies in private to all of these people who care about him. That should concern his daily listeners and fans. If he’s lying this much, why wouldn’t he lie to you? This isn’t a case of a few minor embellishment and a mistress either, this is disturbing shit he’s doing because it suits him. Someone like that should not be the trusted advisor of millions about anything, let alone how to be healthy and successful.