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  • This you?

    It’s such an incredible example of cognitive dissonance. People able to recognize that their own system doesn’t live up to the ideal they have in their heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system they dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.

    As is said, it seems like you are working with only two categories in your head: “pro China” and “pro us”

    That one can criticise one of them without liking the other doesn’t seem to fit in your head



  • Do you think China is a Marxist utopia? Because if not I don’t know why you are so butthurt by my comment, if yes my point stands.

    Not sure what you are trying to proof here, to me it seems like you have two simple categories in your head: “pro me” and “anti me” and you assume everyone in the same category must be the same. I remotely mention that I don’t think China is heaven on earth and you start to talk about how I must be mentally derailed or something.

    I think calling the us democratic is far fetched, butcallingg China democratic is not very close to the truth either.


  • Yeah, just saw i had unread messages and replied.

    My point was that you are using ad hominem wrong.

    It would be an ad hominem Argument if he would take your personality/looks/person as an argument against your talking point/what you say.

    This is not the case here. He argues against your talking point/what you say and uses that as an argument against your person.

    It doesn’t matter what side of you both is right content wise, its not ad hominem either way, as you botth argue about the information itself. (Plus making [unnessesary] assumptions about each others personality based on the opinion they have in the information)

    As homin is ONLY if you use the person saying the opinion against the opinion.

    If you use the opinion the person says as an argument against the person, that something totally different and quite logic frankly.

    For example: If trump says: poc are violent

    Ad hominem would be: this is wrong BECAUSE trump said it.

    Normal arguing is: trump is saying this, therefore he is a racist/dumb/wrong.

    Two very different things.

    And atacking others for caring two much about semantics when you make false (semantic) allegations is another sign of bad discussion style IMHO

    I have no hard feelings about this thread, but it bothers me when people are discussing in awaty that is bound to fail, so I wanted to clarify this


  • and now your making a strawman argument. do you try to play some sort of bogus-argument-bingo?

    What is said was: “what a did was not an ad hominem atack”

    now your comment starts with: “So, you’re saying that the Global South (either Africa or South America) has made major, concerted attempts at creating effective capitalist states?”

    and you even dare to start with: "so what your saying is … "

    no thats not at all what i said, i didnt mention the globale south, i didnt metion capitalism, i didnt even agree with OP on his meme.

    but thats what you argue against. Do you really not see this or are you a troll?