• sunbunman@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Aight time to try and learn Linux for the 10th time and see if someone without strong console knowledge can use one now.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve been using it for a few months now and only rarely I used console and it was just to paste some commands for something. So yeah, I don’t think that you really need to know howbto use console if you don’t need to do anything that specifically needs it.

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        7 months ago

        Rarely is still too much for me.
        If I do regular joe stuff, I don’t want to be required to go into the terminal.

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          7 months ago

          You shouldn’t have to.

          I live near exclusively in the console because it’s my work and I love it, it’s WAY more efficient than the GUI, but last time I actually NEEDED the console? I can’t remember, honestly.

          Also are you trying to say you never needed to figure something out on windows? Granted, I don’t read much about it because fuck Windows, but I remember windows Registry headaches, is that still a thing? Just copy paste these base64 codes in the registry in these UUID keys, which literally would be impossible to learn, and it will fix it, super easy!

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            7 months ago

            At least not for the regular joe stuff I do.
            Obviously I tinker with my install and am not shy about reverting to a backup if I know it will be highly intrusive.
            For the not so regular joe stuff close to the pro-sumer region you probably will have to research just about anything if you want to achieve something.

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              7 months ago

              You have to learn a little for any task, so people saying that they don’t want to learn something is a bit weird.

              Linux really isn’t more complicated than windows. Actually, after 25 years of Linux desktop, looking at windows it’s frustrating complication after complication.

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                7 months ago

                I am not desinterested to learn.
                It just doesnt make sense to always have a need to enter the CLI for stuff regular users want to do.
                Let the power toys be under the hood, no problem with that. But the regular folks don’t even grasp the idea to find out how to change the IP of their regular windows PC for something they want.

                Linux is currently developed by tech enthusiasts for mostly tech enthusiasts. Who tells the (by the way awesome) maintainers to stop and think what they develop in that particular way?
                Even a group of maintainers might fall into the trap to develop something in such a way that it overwhelms the regular user.

                IMO what it needs is resiliency against those users and more aim to make it idiot proof (for them) and make it more an actual daily driver that first has a GUI for the most common tools and then the CLI if needed

                looking at windows it’s frustrating complication after complication.

                Tell that a Windows admin and that admin might say the same about you and your OS.
                In the end, everyones wants it their way.