• Flumsy@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    If you say you are right to censor your worst enemys then the Nazis were logically also right to censor the opinions of the people THEY hated the most…

    Supporting only certain peoples freedom of speech is the definition of censorship…

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        11 months ago

        Everyone’s OPINION has to be tolerated. If you dont tolerate the people you deem “the intolerant” then those people will see you as intolerant (against them) aswell. According to you, they would then be right not not tolerate you (as “the intolerant” that doesnt tolerate them).

        As long as they dont take away from anybody else’s freedom (and by just stating one’s opinion one doesnt do that) it has to be tolerated, otherwise it is censorship.

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      11 months ago

      No it isn’t. One is a violent group who want to kill and enslave. The other respects life. They are not the same. They do not have the same rights. You are dead wrong, period. No amount of rationalization will make you not dead wrong.

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        11 months ago

        Killing and enslaving are both means to do something, not the actual reason itself. If any person with a different political view wanted to do the same, it would be just as bad. Everyones opinion should be allowed.

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          11 months ago

          What would you consider to be a good reason for killing and enslaving that everyone needs to hear about regularly?

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            11 months ago

            Killing and enslaving should not be allowed and should be avoided at all cost.

            The point is, however, if (lets say) a communist killed and enslaved people, should that mean that communist views should be censored in the future? (No! IMO)

            Killing and enslaving people are terrible and unacceptable ways of pushing one’s own ideals. It does not make the actual opinion itself invalid though.

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              11 months ago

              But communist views ARE censored, and it is specifically because it is claimed that they killed and enslaved. Meanwhile, Nazi views are celebrated as they announce to all that killing and enslavement is their goal.